Detillier: Saints have ''lost their emotional heartbeat''
by Tommy Tucker,posted Sep 24 2012 11:41AM
WWL NFL analyst Mike Detillier joined me this morning to talk about the horrible start of the season by the Black and Gold.
Detillier says it's now apparent to him that the team is adrift without their coach.
"I think it's now as plain as can be that the Saints without Sean Payton is like the Colts without Peyton Manning last year," Detillier said. "They've lost their emotional heartbeat on this football team. Now, the players can't say it and the coaches can't say it, but it's obvious...this team is a step or two back from what it was a year ago because of that."
The Saints defense was run over by what Mike calls an "average" Kansas City offense.
"Defensively, I have no explanation. It is as bad as I've ever seen out there. The Chiefs are not a good football team, and the Saints got absolutely trashed by the Chiefs. You had a middle of the road, at best, quarterback that picked you apart. All we heard last week from the media, coaches, and players, was "get us away from the unconventional quarterbacks, and it will solve the problems." It didn't solve anything! The problem is that you're playing lousy on the defensive side of the football! You can't stop the run, your pass coverage part is poor, you're getting no pass rush...so I don't know where it's going to stop, to be honest."
According to Detillier, things may go from bad to worse in the coming weeks if the Saints don't find a way to pull it together.
"I've always felt how you gauge your football team in your schedule is the caliber of QB you play. Look at who you're going to play the next couple of weeks: Aaron Rodgers, Phillip Rivers, Payton Manning, Michael Vick...you're going to go up against some pretty sizeable quarterbacks, much better than the Chiefs."
And Mike says he's not confident that the offense will be able to save the day, despite having Drew Brees under center.
"Offensively, this team is basically going to have to score 35 to 38 points each week to win a football game. And I'm not sure they can do it. Because of the fact...in down-and-distance situations, in which Peyton was the master in throwing you off track, this team is not hitting on all cylinders. You've got nothing to hang your hat on, offensively or defensively. Nothing.
Detillier: Saints have ''lost their emotional heartbeat''
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Goes to monday morning QB segment, not Mike D's clip.
Rod Guidry in Sacramento
I hate to say it but,"Kill the head and the body will die." Apparently, Goodell has done that to our Saints, he took away our head(head coach Sean Payton). The results so far speak for themselves. I have vented about as much anger verbally against Goodell. Now, for me, it's time to forgive. I took communion for Goodell this morning at mass. Looking on the bright side, we should get a good 1st rounder next year. Go Saints!!!
Bone in Phoenix
It looks like this new defense isn't working at all, and if it stays like it is you can expect us to go way down into the season before we see a win. Like the Colts last year,somewhere around game thirteen or so. nothing but tougher teams for a while.
So who is the defensive stud out there in the college ranks we need to put our hopes on?
The problem with the Aint's is their defense
I bet if you look it up, the Aint's D for the first 3 games might be the worst in stats in the history of the NFL. This team is going to have a hard time winning any games.
Defense is horrible.
This defense, that has NEVER been good under Payton is no worse. Hard to believe we are DEAD last in the NFL in defense. I see bad defensive players in a bad scheme. Here is the scenario 3rd/4th quarter, KC ball, 3 & 12. They drop back and after a 2-3 second look around dumps to the RB who then goes 11.5 yards. They get 1st on 4th down. WHY? We had 2 DEs and 2DTs in the pass rush. ON an OBVIOUS passing play why not put in 2 DEs and 2 LBs to rush with SPEED!. Saints have never had a good pass rush unless they are bringing 6 or 7 defenders. I say lets go 1-15, get number one pick, trade down 8 places and pick up an extra number on or 2 extra number 2s. THEN we draft ONLY BAMA and LSU defensive players!!!
ummm, next year's draft may not help either...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Goodell take our 1st round pick away for next year??? Thankfully, we have GREAT scouts. a good draft should be a must.
next yrs draft
I think you are correct. I remember it as taking our 1st round draft away from us for 2 yrs.
Re next years draft
They took our 2nd round pick in next years draft away. Not the 1st round pick.
With the front four the Saints have, that gets no pressure on the QB, there is no excuse to not rush ATLEAST 5 guys on known passing downs. Now obviously, if youre up 28 pts in the 4th quarter you dont have to do that. As for stopping the run. I dont know what their going to do. Thats about balling up. Getting off a block and making a tackle. Having a nose for the ball or good instincts. not being driven right out of the play. It Just looks really really bad.
2 problems , the saints have been blitzing more the last few
years to mask the fact that they dont have the talent to
play a 4-3 defense without blitzing they never will be good
in the base defense without better talent and the offensive
line was usuallygood enough to allow the points to be put
up to cover up the defensive problems , but not this year
the o-line is bad therefore most problems show up
Going through the motions
Previous years you would see Brees, Daniel and an offensive coach and/or Payton huddled on the sideline working on the coming series, blocking etc. This year Brees is sitting alone on the bench with little to no discussion with other players, nor is he reviewing photos of previous plays, coverage, lineups, etc. There is no interaction from the coaching staff. Just a blank express from the acting head coach, staring into space.
Same goes for the defense. Seems everyone is just going through the motions with no care for the outcome.
The Saints do not have a head coach, period. No team in the NFL can win without a TOP head coach. End of Story. this season was over before it started. No matter what the bounty-gate deal..the punishment to the Saints is extreme, un precedented, and unfair in what the effect it will have to the Saints and their paying customers. Wait til next year as we used to say so oftem , many years ago.
To go along with "Defensive woes" above,with which I agree except to add - where is the super defensive scheme of Spags? He is supposedly a defensive genius, but I just don't see any inventiveness, no surprises, lack of effective blitzes, etc. Remember, as coach of the Rams, he had a far less than impressive record with that team, so maybe we were expecting too much of him.
NOW FOR THE OFFENSE:
1. We should trade Ingram while he is not yet totally exposed as a less than average RB. Maybe we could get a quality defensive player plus a possible draft pick NOW, but not for much longer. From past performances, but Ivory and Cadet are considerable better than Mr. Ingram. PT is the man as both runner and receiver, and Sproles is about the best there is in "special" situations, as runner and receiver.
2. I have been a very ardent supporter of Drew since he first set foot on the field for the SaintS (after admiring his talent as a Charger). When he is "on", he is simply the best in the business. However, in the first three games of this season, it is NOT the Drew we are used to seeing. To me he looks so tentative in making his decisions. Further, his interception frequency is alarming. As a matter of fact, on the intercepted pass to Devery at the goal line, had he been better at evaluating Devery's great speed, he could have lead him more and a touchdown would have resulted since the defender was clearly beaten. For the first time, I think Drew is WAS under par. Could be miss Sean that much???
I hate to say this, but following the very probable loss to the Packers next Sunday, we just might see the BAGHEADS show up at the game against the Charger on October 7th and be the laughing stock of the NFL on NATIONAL TV!
I pray that I'm wrong...
NO Deep Threat
I didn't see it coming but I believe we are really missing Robert Meachem right now. We haven't completed a single long pass in three games.